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I agree Dave but have found in the past that, while the number of pints consumed before the incident increase the size of the wave somewhat, it is also true that the number of pints consumed after the experience also increase the size of the wave, the inadequacy of whatever piece of equipment you blame for your inability to roll and the length of the swim. Maybe Knotman can come up with a formula to work all this out based on the alcohol content of Guinness?

Jamie

PS Being able to roll is a sign of success, having to roll is a sign of failure.

A la Einstien,
E=mc2
where E = estimated height of wave
m = mass of alcohol per unit
c = consumption of units
2 = squared.
Please note the dominance of the \"c squared\" term. If double the usual amount of alcohol is drunk the wave will appear 4 times higher, treble the usual amount 9 times higher...........

This formula is equally applicable before, after or during
the sea-trip.
Sennen